Music Xray: Scam And Spam

Sat, August 21st 2010

Scamming musicians is nothing new. They’re easy marks, whose best defense mechanism against the scammers lining up to get a hand in their wallets, is the lack of funds within. But musicians’ lack of money doesn’t stop these scam artists from trying… it just means they have to scam in bulk. Case in point: Music Xray. Music Xray will tell you they are providing a service to these musicians by offering “exposure opportunities”, that put their music in front of “Music Industry Professional”… for a fee. Right, so if you’re a musician, instead of buying that QuickStop burrito, you can pay $3+ to submit your music to one of these “exposure opportunities” and have your music reviewed by an “industry professional”. Of course, anyone can sign up to be one of these said “professionals”. Yup, anyone and their uncle can sign up as one and start creating “opportunities” that charge musicians a submission fee. Or you could just cut out the middle man and give your uncle Lenny $3 to tell you how great you are (thanks Lenny!). Think American Idol, except all the thousands and thousands of contestants have to pay to have to pay each judge for every “opportunity” to perform for them and instead of Simon, you get berated by uncle Lenny (who was in a band once). And in this scenario, Music Xray would be the TV producers who get to make coin off the whole thing, while declaring their innocence of any wrong-doing. It’s not their fault Lenny is really a refrigerator repair man and can’t cary a tune in a bucket. Want more proof? Music Xray are also prolific spammers. Once you’re on their list, they will email you constantly with “opportunities” from a range of email domains, so you can’t kill them off with a spam filter. You can keep trying to “unsubscribe” but it won’t do you any good. Classy! How much money would you give to a spammer? And Music Xray also searches for, and responds to, articles that discus their business as being a scam (like this one). This in itself is an obvious mark of a shady business. So, is Music Xray a scam? Maybe it depends on how much you like QuickStop burritos. Judge for yourself…



Mike McCready writes:

Hi Dasspunk. Mike McCready here, co-founder and CEO of Music Xray.

It’s not so much that we seek out any articles about our company so much as people find them and alert us or we get a Google alert or something like that and as with any business that deals with thousands of users it’s important for us to manage our reputation.

I appreciate the intention behind your post. As a one-time jaded musician myself, the whole reason we took our company in the direction we did was to be part of the solution to the numerous shady offers that are out there. So, I get what you’re trying to do. Nevertheless, we are backed by venture capital have reputable advisors and partners who would never be involved in a shady operation. We’re held to a pretty high standard.

Please allow me to address a couple of your points.

Yes, it is true that anyone can sign up on our site and offer to be a music industry professional and accept song submissions from artists. However, all of these accounts must go through an approval process and we do not publish any opportunities we find to be bogus. If any slip through the cracks, we have an extensive community policing system that enables any musician to rate the industry professionals and leave comments right on their profile page for everyone to see. We publish all legitimate comments, good and bad and you can see an example of that here: http://www.musicxray.com/profiles/626

Also, this is the commitment we make to artists: http://www.musicxray.com/our-commitment

This is where success stories are published and anyone can vet them if they’d like to: http://www.musicxray.com/success-stories

Lastly, regarding the spam: we only launched the site a few months ago so we are in an aggressive marketing stage – trying to get the word out. Part of our effort to do that involves getting a lot of our users to sign up to our affiliate program and we encourage them to sign up other musicians. We’ve run email address gathering contests and other campaigns that have unfortunately resulted in some people being signed up to our email list multiple times and against their will. Frankly, we should have foreseen that. As a result, it has given us a mixed bag of outcomes precisely because we’ve received a number of complaints and it has been hard for a small number of people to unsubscribe because we use several different email service providers with multiple lists. We hope to have that solved this coming week. We’re not ignoring the issue and we’re changing the way to ask our users to help us spread the word. I’m not saying it won’t happen again but we’re trying to stem this.

In conclusion, we run a very transparent ship. I’m not saying there aren’t legitimate complaints about our service. We’re not perfect but we do engage and interact with our users in an effort to improve. We want Music Xray to be the fastest, most economical and most efficient way for musicians to get in touch with music industry professionals. We are always open for dialog and to address concerns. We have 24 hour customer service during the week and it’s only slightly reduced on the weekends. We’re doing our best and will make improvements in the areas where the criticisms ring true.

Thanks Dasspunk for the opportunity to address this. I try to be personally available as much as possible so if I’ve left anything un-addressed please get in touch and Ill be happy to give you my best answers.

-Mike

Comment - August 22, 2010 @ 5:21 am

Elie writes:

Hey
I made a profile on music xray, uploaded my band’s music, and sent them to a bunch of opportunities. Those that were “free” had a music xray submission fee of 4$, which is no prob, if it would actually work. I also applied to a “thoughtful” consideration for critique by an industry veteran. I never got any feedback or reply either -that one wasnt “free” either. Still, nothing (that was around 2 months ago). As far as I’m concerned, it’s a scam, and yo’re better off elsewhere.
Cheers,
Elie
http://www.anannuki.com

Comment - September 30, 2010 @ 2:27 pm

Music Xray writes:

Hello Elie,

Every single one of your submissions has been completed. And some of them there is no feedback since they are only for consideration and others like the one with Charlie Walk they did get back to you with a free form review. Maybe there is some sort of misunderstanding but from what I see all of the submissions are marked complete and all have them have been completed ontime.

If you have any issues you can send an email to support@musicxray.com.

Thanks,

Music Xray Support

Comment - November 18, 2010 @ 6:30 pm

Dean writes:

I am a MusicXray member myself, and I do wonder about the integrity of anyone who charges people just to listen. The rule of thumb preached by the major songwriting organisations and musicians unions is that as a musician or writer you should NEVER hand over any money upfront, and anyone asking you to do this is untrustworthy.

I get sensational e-mails all the time from Music Xray saying things like ”songs neede for Beyonce”, ”songs needed for Taylor Swift”, and ”songs needed for major brand ad campaign”. However when one looks more closely it is usually an independent publisher or company, or even just a person, who is going to ‘attempt’ to plug your song to the companies who represent Taylor Swift or Beyonce, which could of course just mean putting a CD in the post, which we can all do ourselves, and which we all know is pointless. These e-mails are totally, and deliberately, misleading.

Certainly the ‘success stories’ to which Mike McCready has helpfully directed us here make no mention of any song being succesfully placed with these artists, or as far as I can see any recognisable artist at all. Same goes for the ad-campaigns. There is no mention of any of it. Instead success stories are things like: ”Block Scholars just got accepted to be placed on Valleyarm MIDEM Sampler to be handed out to industry movers and shakers in Cannes, France at the MIDEM Conference!”

This sounds to me like somebody is going to make some CD’s, take a bag full of them, stand outside the conference centre and pass them to disinterested music execs as they pass by. It’s hardly the same as Beyonce selling a million copies of a song you wrote and she recorded. Has music Xray never succesfully placed a song with an established and recognisable artist? Not one? Ever? If they have why are they not shouting it from the rooftops?

The ‘Torrez Music Group’, one of the most regular and misleading parties making money through the site, regularly claims to require songs for artists such as Carrie Underwood, yet does not list any of the artists it claims it represents or has contacts to on it’s website. Makes no metion of them at all. The website is sparse to say the least and doesn’t look as if it’s been updated for about a year – http://www.torrezmm.tk/
The whole Music Xray thing is cleverly done – they do have their little success stories – they’re not just pocketing all the money they get and clearing out, so it is very difficult to throw any mud that sticks. This is a much more sustainable and legitimate way to take money from musicians (who of course usually don’t have much).

I love that the main article here states that Music Xray looks for and responds to articles that describe it as a scam, and the very first comment? From the CEO himself!
I await the reply to this post…

Comment - February 21, 2011 @ 7:38 am

Janine writes:

I came to Music Xray after a post in a LinkedIn Group. The guy who posted it didn’t seem like a scammer, so I thought I’d join. But when I, signing up as a music fan, had to UPLOAD music from my favorite artists, I stopped. Upload an MP3? Isn’t that illegal filesharing?

Now I want to delete my profile and I don’t know how. The FAQ says: “You can delete a Music Xray you’ve created at any time. However, use caution”. *a list of disadvantages appears here* “You should consider alternatives to deleting your Music Xray, such as setting the player to ‘Private’ thereby making it impossible for anyone to play your song except you when you are logged in to your account.” HELLO? Answer to the question, please?

Going through the terms of service doesn’t make me particularly happy either.. “Although we may attempt to notify you when major changes are made to these Terms of Service, you should periodically review the most up-to-date version”. May attempt to? That’s very professional.. Ugh. Aren’t organizations obligated to notify if changes have been made?

Anyway, I’m blocking MusicXray everywhere. Hope it works.

Comment - February 23, 2011 @ 9:03 am

dasspunk writes:

I got a comment from a Jarred Beckingsly that was complimentary towards Music Xray… but it seemed a bit odd to me (eg. fake) so I took a peek on MusicXray’s site for Jarred’s music and found nothing. So I emailed Jarred but his email was fake. Jarred, if you’re a real person, contact me and I’ll be happy to post your comment…

Comment - February 24, 2011 @ 10:27 pm

Rob Coates writes:

The latest scam is offering to put you in a focus group and paying you for song evaluations. Starts at $.05, then you get raises of 5 cents for evaluating X number of additional songs. No payout till you have earned $20.00 Well, quess what: when you get anywhere close to the $20.00 pay out, your page for getting the songs to evaluate no longer work and you get error messages stating that the script is too busy etc.
Scam!

Comment - March 2, 2011 @ 6:57 pm

Xray Member writes:

Although I disagree a bit with some of the above points, I must say this …

The site has been around longer than a “few months” in that original post from Mike above from August 2010. Members began signing up in a beta in early 09′

Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: MUSICXRAY.COM
Created on: 26-MAY-06
Expires on: 26-MAY-11
Last Updated on: 29-JUN-10

My biggest with the TMG/Torrez music group. I have to wonder about Alex Torezz as well – is it a TMG SCAM?

http://web.me.com/cooper.torrez/Torrez_Music_and_Marketing/Home.html

Comment - March 7, 2011 @ 4:18 pm

steve chansky writes:

I have been a member of the focus groups functionality Rob Coates is writing about and have no reason to believe it is a scam. The page was loading slow but it appears as though that problem has been fixed last time I logged in. It was probably some sort of technical problem rather than a blatant attempt to stop me from earning money with them. Sometimes I get more emails than I would like from them and they do make it difficult to unsubscribe, but I don’t think the focus groups are a scam. We’ll see soon enough, i’m almost at $20.

Comment - March 9, 2011 @ 6:38 am

Sz writes:

Whoa. I like musicxray so far. As a member of the focus group, I’m not sure about the whole scam thing. They also respond fast on getsatisfaction.com. I have heard about the industry people not picking any songs etc. This is one I would like to be the judge of in reference to the focus group and song opportunities. As of now, everything seems ok.

Will C!

Comment - March 9, 2011 @ 3:53 pm

Cimarron writes:

I just got to $20 on the focus groups… Not sure if i trust what it says about needing $20 in your paypal account already before you can get paid. Why do i need that? Has anyone ever actually gotten paid from this site?

Comment - March 13, 2011 @ 7:44 pm

Dean writes:

I’ve been responding to the focus groups e-mails and listening to other artists – out of genuine interest in finding out the standard which one can consider oneslef ‘up against’, rather than the desire to make money. As soon as my ‘earnings’ reached about eighteen dollars the mail stopped. I can’t get a payout until $20, and there is no option to use your credit against song submissions (for expample to cover the four dollar Music Xray ‘fee’).
Goodness knows how much money they are making. It must run into millions of dollars, but they’re not getting another cent from me.

Comment - April 5, 2011 @ 1:29 am

vivy writes:

Actually, I’ve got paid, I didn’t get much emails from them since then though

Comment - April 14, 2011 @ 1:53 pm

Chrisuk8 writes:

I’m signed up to taxi and use xray.

I have to say I have had loads and loads of rejections on xray, unfair, yes, infact I wonder if some listen at all, BUT I have got a HUGE break through xray, I got three of my songs forwarded to a major US artist and now have a top A&R contact details. I’ve been told I have a smash hit with one of them.

The fact is taxi cost over $300 dollars to sign up, there are less opportunities, NO PINGS AT ALL and they take forever to come back to you and worse part you don’t know who you are talking to, if you resubmit you get a different person with completely different views.

I like xray, yes just before I got the forward I paid $3 dollars for a critique by someone who maybe is not famous enough, but blimey his feedback was great made me work harder. I also do check on google who the reviewer is and each time they have been people that know there stuff.

Also xray do free reviews, here is one of mine:

“Your Quote
Beautiful song….

Your Review
Chris… this song is amazing… it gave me goose bumps from the start and it drove me to a very emotional state. Well done!!!!!!

Congratulations and keep doing great song like this one.

Vyero”

I’ve googled this guy and he is a very good professional, not only that he also told other people they suck, check out “wings of fire”.

I’ve also had two professionals ask to work with me.

I think the worse part is when you hear nothing back, but sadly that’s never going to change. I have emailed xray about this and notice they have slightly changed their set up so you get a reason.

Now here is the reason I’m not going to post a link to my music. I’m signed up to some forums supply these sites and I think the standard of songs are not good enough. to be honest I’m very disappointed with the stardard of taxi songs. I feel some of these people are also being taken advantage of. If I was a reviewer on xray I would be giving them very low scores, yet taxi give them a 7 or 8, and who are they???? but if you get a 7 or 8 you come back.

If you think your music is good enough then you have to splash cash whether its xray or taxi or gigging or sending to labels.

Another important thing to remember is everyone is different, one person may love your track another hate it, its sadly all about numbers.

I;ve got a lot of encouragement thouh xray, and as much as I hate rejection from xray, I’ve come to live with it.

Anyway wish me luck

Comment - April 26, 2011 @ 2:47 am

Greg writes:

Yeah, if things seem too good to be true thats because they are.

Welcome to the new age “labels” and I hate to say it but I’d rather have worked with the guy with the cigar then a
fucking website.

Thanks for educating songwriters about this SCAM. I will stay away and encourage my friends to stay away as well.

Comment - May 10, 2011 @ 8:38 am

Memi writes:

Word is spreading about you clowns, much like Uri gellar

This is Music Xray in a nutshell:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7BQKu0YP8Y

Your sinning….keep ripping people off and see what happens.

Comment - May 10, 2011 @ 8:43 am

Trey (Music Xray Indie Songwriter & Member) writes:

I have used Music Xray’s service for about 4 months now and have truly received some killer results that I could never make happen myself! Industry professionals have contacted me directly and are now placing 11 of my songs in film and tv!

I would recommend this service to musicians who have taken the time to carefully craft top notch songs. Music Xray can put dollars in musicians pockets by introducing the industry professionals to the songwriter or band!

For those musicians who are having a little trouble landing a song placement while using Music Xray or any of the hundred’s of services on the web, it may mean that it’s time to re-record old material or write some new fresh tunes! Music Supervisors are currently looking for that special original tune, you may have already written it!

Music Xray also has incredible customer service and they never leave the customer wondering about a listing! Music Xray brings real results for real songwriters!

-Trey

Comment - May 10, 2011 @ 2:39 pm

Ben writes:

If that were true, they would be exclusive and not allow every
naive fool to submit. I don’t beileve you Trey, what shows and what songs I will be waiting…

Comment - May 11, 2011 @ 8:49 am

matt h writes:

Wow, a success story from Trey, lol.

Ok Trey all us skeptics will be following you.

Like the last post said…we want to know which shows and when ect….

If its true your should have nothing to hide right.

Sorry but your post Trey, sounded like bullshit…i loved the word “incredible” customer service…your incredible Trey…if not prove it…we all want to follow you.

Comment - May 11, 2011 @ 8:57 am

jack writes:

Trey said Music Xray also has “incredible” customer service….

Easy killer, don’t over do it with words like incredible, it wont be as believable.

Trey could I have a link to your music???? LOL

Comment - May 11, 2011 @ 9:02 am

jack writes:

Still waiting on that link to your highly marketable music Trey???

Whats wrong, lol

Comment - May 14, 2011 @ 10:25 am

Anon writes:

Total waste of money. Based on the opportunity and comments I thought I would at least get back an intelligent reply. If I had known “Not quite what we’re looking for” would be it, I NEVER would have paid money. Then, I tried to submit a review on the site of that particular opportunity and they rejected my comment! So,keep in mind, whatever you read on that site has been filtered, not everyone is allowed to post reviews.

Comment - May 15, 2011 @ 3:28 pm

busted writes:

Well,

Mr MCgreedy, It looks like its back to cooking fries and MceeD’s!

Comment - May 16, 2011 @ 2:08 pm

Mike McCready writes:

Hello all,

I am passionate about helping musicians advance their careers, leveling the playing field and to making the A&R process more about talent and skill and less about who you know or can get access to. I have committed over a decade of my life to working to solve these problems.

Here’s a little more about me: http://about.me/mikemccready

I am eager to spend time discussing Music Xray. I will directly answer ANYTHING you want to ask me about Music Xray here on this forum. I am the co-founder and CEO. The buck stops here.

For starters, these are the facts about Music Xray: http://www.mikemccready.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Get-Deals-Get-Better-PDF-Q1-2011.pdf

I would love to hear what do you hate about Music Xray. Is there anything you love? What would you change? What about it seems like a scam to you? I want to hear it all and I will try my best to address every single comment.

Comment - June 4, 2011 @ 9:34 pm

pat writes:

yeah, change the scam part.

Comment - June 6, 2011 @ 2:26 pm

mike writes:

I’d say there’s been a surplus of feedback here Mr. McCready
and you have not address these comments other then to say
more politician like rhetoric that I’m not buying.

One simple truth that you cannot deny is that good artists should never have to pay anyone for their music. Nothing big ever comes from your “type” of site
when do you ever hear a famous artist say: I got started using music xray”.

You never have heard that and you never will hear that because its a SCAM.
Come on guys, I know making it and having dreams blurs your common sense but this is scary. Don’t fall for it.

Comment - June 6, 2011 @ 2:37 pm

benny109 writes:

all i can say is lol

Comment - June 6, 2011 @ 2:41 pm

Where's Trey? writes:

where did Trey go…….Trey?

Where’s that link to your highly marketable muse man?

The jig is up. Mr McCready would like us to think he’s a social worker
helping musicians and may deserve a prize but we dont buy it.

Its like church, “god will forgive your sins but it will cost you”

Donations please?

Comment - June 6, 2011 @ 2:45 pm

IreAnon writes:

To all the people complaining, maybe, just maybe your songs are sh*t???
Band I’m in got one song picked on musicxray, asked to send an album’s worth of stuff onto a small label in Cali.
We used taxi, found it rubbish. Yeah, it’s all a money racket, but I’ll take the chance…..

Comment - June 8, 2011 @ 3:57 am

IreAnon writes:

In addition, how many of you have used online dating sites? you telling me you “paid” to get a date? Same thing…
Nobody should have to pay to go on a date…

Comment - June 8, 2011 @ 4:00 am

brenda writes:

How’s about a link to “your band” IreAnon, otherwise I feel like you work for music xray.

Comment - June 8, 2011 @ 9:34 am

Vinny writes:

yeah we’d really love to hear your un sh*tty song man, you should be proud and have nothing to hide, right?

Its funny (sad really) for every like 5-6 bad comments there’s always one positive comment about xray with some idiot saying things like “my band” and “my song” but like the other guy stated, they never give a link to their music or say what the band is. Maybe their so famous since their explosion with music xray that they dont need to promote their band.

So I say IreAnon and challenge you, can we have a link to your myspace or facebook page, anypage for that matter?

Bet he doesnt reply.

Comment - June 8, 2011 @ 9:39 am

dasspunk writes:

There is an individual leaving multiple comments with multiple fake email addresses. I’m tired of sifting through them all. If you want to comment, please collect your thoughts and comment in a more reasonable amount of posts. This isn’t twitter. I would have emailed you directly to explain this had you used a non-fake email address.

Hugs,
Comrade dasspunk

Comment - June 8, 2011 @ 10:34 am

piggy writes:

most likely the person with the fake emails are these bands and people saying they had their music placed with xray. Notice how they never mention the band name or song thats because they are lying and don’t want to be traced.

Comment - June 8, 2011 @ 11:59 am

JP writes:

I’m a member of Xray Music as well.

I agree, seems like a scam, no question about it.
The entire “pay us and we’ll get industry top execs listening to you” is one of the oldest scams in the biz.

I could just and just understand some “submission fee” of maybe 4-5bucks, but why pay 95bucks (!!) for personal feedback of an “industrial pro” no one’s ever heard of??

Would be great to hear if ANYONE in the business ever got anywhere with Music Xray.
For some reason I don’t think we’ll ever come across with anyone… ;)

Sad, but true.

Comment - June 13, 2011 @ 9:15 am

Mike McCready writes:

Hello again all,

I’ll just dive right in and go in order.

@Pat – Anyone scamming artists on our site are immediately removed and all artists who have submitted to them have had their money returned. This has rarely happened but there has been a case or two where we’ve had to remove the profile of someone posting an opportunity. Music Xray will absolutely not tolerate any professional on the site who is peddling any sort of opportunity that does not truly exist. Music Xray itself is certainly not involved in anything untoward. We guarantee you are listened to by the people you submit your music to in a maximum of 45 days or your money back. You are also given at least one reason if your music is declined. It is true that the reason may simply be that “your music is not quite what they are seeking”. I believe this is better than spending a similar amount of money to send your press package through the mail and never know if it arrived or was listened to. Yes, more feedback would be better, but for that we provide a place where industry professionals can offer more detailed critiques and even coaching. That will cost you more in most cases but not always.

@Mike – Given the changes the music industry has already undergone, musicians must think of themselves as businesses. When businesses spend money to develop new products and services they spend even more marketing and selling them. They make sure their customers get a taste. They spend money on advertising, they give away free samples, they spend money on trade shows, business trips, negotiations… In short, they spare no expense when it comes to getting the deals that generate the revenue and eventual profit. Music Xray provides a place where you can get that done.

It is unfortunate but musicians can no longer expect to create a great product and to then be discovered by happenstance (not to say that was a very good system in the past either). Given the millions of musicians out there requesting that the professionals listen to their music, you have to do something to insure you get their attention. We guarantee it or your money back.

If you think you should not have to expend time, money and resources getting your music heard by the gatekeepers of opportunity you will simply be out-competed by artists who are willing to do that.

Lastly, I do not yet know of a band/musician who got their career-making opportunity on Music Xray. We’ve only been around a short time. I do know of acts who have been signed to labels (big and small), had their music placed in major movies, advertising campaigns, network television shows etc. Will these deals make them rich and famous? I don’t know. But between Feb 1st and May 30th nearly 1800 acts & songs were selected for opportunities on Music Xray.

@Where’s Trey – No company should remain in business if they are not providing a valuable service and solving real problems. Music Xray aims to solve real problems for both the industry (making the A&R process more efficient and reducing risk) and for musicians (saving time & money while creating a level playing field and opening doors of opportunity that in many cases were previously closed). If we do that well, we should be paid for that service just like any other company.

@Piggy – I can direct you to a link for some success stories on Music Xray. In most cases you can follow the links to the musicians’ who are referenced, get in touch and ask them questions. http://www.musicxray.com/success-stories

@JP – You are right. You should not pay $95 to submit your music to someone you’ve never heard of or who you think can’t help you. Those industry professionals who offer their time to critique and offer career coaching set their own prices. If they get too many submissions to handle, they raise the price. Or maybe they just aren’t willing to give away their time and expertise for less. I don’t know. Each one probably has their own reasons for setting their price at whatever amount they’ve chosen. Most submission opportunities on the site are between $4 and $20. For the more expensive ones you’re paying for the time and expertise of the person on the other end and if you don’t know them or can’t research them to determine if they can help you or not, you should probably not submit music to them.

For success stories, again I suggest this link: http://www.musicxray.com/success-stories

To conclude this post, I personally recruited many of the first industry professionals on the site. Those who have signed-up themselves and who I don’t know personally, I’m pretty sure they’d take my call. However, when I want to place a song I pay the submission fee and submit through Music Xray. Not only because I don’t want to be a hypocrite. Rather, I believe that Music Xray is the best way to get a song placed. Here’s why:

I KNOW the person on the other end is going to listen to the song and I’m not going to have to call-in a favor to get it done. Whenever I have called-in a favor in the past and sent an MP3 via email I didn’t really know for sure if they listened and then I’d find myself feeling crappy because I either never heard back (which would be a sign they weren’t taking me seriously) or because I’m then calling them back to hound them about the song – and I don’t want to be that guy. I want to avoid both those things. With Music Xray, I know that if they don’t listen, we’re just going to have to contact them on behalf of the company and tell them we’re closing their account for not attending to their submissions. That’s much better leverage and we exert that leverage for everyone – regardless of whose track they have not attended to. So as someone fortunate to have a lot of friends in this business, I still use Music Xray and I pay the fees, just like everyone else. So far, no bites but my music’s just not grabbing their attention. I just have to live with that or get better.

The bottom line is, Music Xray ensures you get listened to or your money back. There are no two ways about it.

Comment - June 13, 2011 @ 5:47 pm

Benji writes:

Mike said:

“I KNOW the person on the other end is going to listen to the song and I’m not going to have to call-in a favor to get it done”

So we are to just take your word that the mighty OZ has listened to it? It seems like a bit of the old “if a tree falls in a forest with nowone around does it still make a sound” story; I have to see it to beileve it despite what you say.
So a person pays $4 dallars to submit to a opportunity to show the mighty oz their music simply because were supposed to trust your word that OZ is listening, pathetic. How about charge nothing for submitions but screen for
songs that actually have a shot and then split the licensing percentage with your new superstar?? Now, that I would believe, in other words you don’t get paid until your
artists get actual deals. I bet you wouldn’t do that though
would you? If you truly believe in your service you should be able to accomodate that idea. It like a sales person who only gets paid when he or she makes money for his/her clients. Face it, the bulk of the money you will make will be people who have absolutely no chance of getting placed
and its their fault right, cause they should no better?
I don’t blame you Mike, I’m more upset with ignorant musicians who don’t know any better then to submit crappy unfinihed demos in the wrong genre no less. I was taught growing up that it is not a “good wise man” who exploits these people but they should be rejected or screened, its whats giving your company a bad name, your pissing off alot of crappy idiots and therefore the true artist will see this scrambling and want no part of it, my 2 cents.

We all know that $4 can either get you a big mac or a huge
licencing deal right, you get what you pay for.

Comment - June 18, 2011 @ 9:49 am

pissant writes:

this is for dasspunk,

some people might want to comment but dont want to give out there personal email as not to show up on endless mailing lists and the like. So I ask you asspunk, why is it so important for you to have valid email address’s? What exactely are you trying to do, collect peoples emails for a mailing list or what? Now I am suspicious of you! Do you want a valid social security number too? I will not post here anymore due to the communism and facist control of your blog and thats real.

Comment - June 18, 2011 @ 10:16 am

dasspunk writes:

That works for me as you are the person pretending to post as multiple people. Try different IP adresses next time.

Comment - June 18, 2011 @ 11:20 am

Mike McCready writes:

@ Benji When one of the industry professionals listens to your song on Music Xray, you get a confirmation email the instant it happens. The industry professional can also open up a dialog with you. There are some submission opportunities where the industry professional is offering to have a dialog with every submitter, so you don’t have to take our word for it that they have listened. Music Xray is a platform. You are conducting your business directly with the professionals on the site.

Regarding our business model, there are plenty of companies out there that have the model you suggest. With those companies, you are neither directly in touch with the industry professional (so you are less likely to be able to build a relationship) and the industry professional doesn’t have access to excellent A&R tools that enable them to do their work better. We are not interested in having our own A&R team. That’s not what we do best. We believe in empowering the musician and the industry professionals to interact in a way that’s rewarding for both parties.

Lastly, we are a venture backed company. Legitimate investors will not back companies that are operating some sort of shenanigans. Major music companies will not join sites that are not providing a valuable, reputable service. As I’ve said before, Music Xray is not perfect. There are legitimate criticisms of it. We’re working every day to improve. I understand that it may not be for everyone. No product/service is. We do put our money where our mouth is, however. Every new artist account gets a free $4 credit to make their first submission and a free $25 focus group on one of their songs. There are no membership fees, so the onus is on us to keep the great opportunities coming since our users can leave at any time. The way I see it, there is nothing to lose by trying it. It may not be for you and that’s OK.

Comment - June 19, 2011 @ 9:41 am

dasspunk writes:

I’m closing comments on this thread as people can’t seem to behave themselves. I’ve given Mr. McCready the last word and if you’d like to comment further, write your own blog…

Comment - June 20, 2011 @ 4:20 am

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